Patina?

"Cé hé sin" (michael-m-mouse) 07/19/2016 at 14:57 • Filed to: Leather, Horsehair

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Some people restore their old cars so such an extent that you’d wonder what’s left of the original.

And some don’t.

Yes, the classic events I went to keep on giving.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Cé hé sin 07/19/2016 at 15:20

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The weird ones are the well maintained but unrestored ones. I remember reading about a guy who owned an XK120 since new, and had kept up with the maintenance, had the car repainted, and it was a nice car. And then one that somebody pulled out of a barn sold for more than his at an auction.

It’s like when it comes to value, you either need to put it in a museum from new, or forget about the thing until it has ‘patina’, because apparently originality trumps all.

lone_liberal > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms 07/19/2016 at 15:31

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This recent fetish for barn finds confuses the fuck out of me. I can understand it when a previously unknown example of an extremely rare and valuable car is found, like those found in a barn in France , but not for a car that is pretty easy to find. Why get one full of rat shit when you can have a well maintained and fairly original version like that guy’s XK120?

Nothing > Cé hé sin 07/19/2016 at 15:41

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I don’t like barn finds (the stories can be cool, the condition of the car and the cries to keep it original confuses me) and I don’t like patina. Patina is often code for neglect. I’m speaking more in terms of run of the mill, average “old” cars, not a 250GT SWB. Patina is the automotive equivalent of “charm”or “character” in advertising for crappy old houses.

BvdV - The Dutch Engineer > Cé hé sin 07/19/2016 at 16:15

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A customer of my work showed his 1969 Maserai Mexico to me last week, the interior was fully original, with the wood being nicely preserved, almost no varnish had chipped off, and the leather being not too cracked. He also told the engine had never been out, and it was still showing remains of the original paint on the valve covers. The only thing he had done to it was a respray and re-spokeing of the Borrani wheels. That car was precisely what originality/patina means for me, if it would have been any worse, I would rather see it being repaired in the parts that are in need to make it look good and usable again.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > Nothing 07/19/2016 at 16:32

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This.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > lone_liberal 07/20/2016 at 00:14

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its only original once. it may be a common car, but if 99% of other cars of the same make/model are restored, then originality is very unique.

lone_liberal > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas 07/20/2016 at 00:21

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I’m referring to examples that have been kept running but not restored so they would be original too. For some reason a lot of people seem prefer mouse droppings and carcasses to clean examples.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Cé hé sin 07/20/2016 at 00:22

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Only original once. Though rust should be mercilessly stamped out.